I missed the Liverpool v Chelsea game again today. For a quiet time of the year i still cannot manage to sit down and see some good football. I had a visitor come to the Belize Jungle Dome and so i sat on the back deck for a few hours chatting, which interrupted my planned afternoon entertainment on ESPN.
SOCCER VS FOOTBALL
Here is an answer from Bob Miller who lives in Ontario, Canada to the football vs soccer question ::
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"......Perhaps UK folks would not be quite so intolerant of many in the world referring to the game as "soccer" if they harkened back to the origination. In the latter part of the 1800s, students at Oxford started referring to Rugby as "Rugger" and Association Football as "Soccer," with the "soc" being extracted from "association." The vast hordes that emigrated to seek a better life, took the game(s)with them to Canada, Australia, The USA and elsewhere, where "soccer" became the accepted appelation. And back in the UK, many referred to football as "soccer."
Numerous senior aged ex-pats I know from England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland said they grew up calling the game soccer. If you reference David Ramzan's pictorial on Charlton (Images of Sport, The Archives Photographs series), pages 61 and 67 show newspaper clippings using the word "soccer" in their headlines, one being "10 Men Make Soccer History," referencing the famous 1957 cup tie when Charlton came back from 1-5 to win 7-6 over Huddersfield, with Summers scoring 5! So, it isn't an American affectation or anything like that, although it does serve nicely to differentiate the game from American, Canadian and Australian Rules Football. The game has been referred to as soccer since it was first introduced by the British and that's what they called it! So, Andy, feel perfectly free to call it whatever you want! To call it "soccer" is very English, although pretty well out of favour these days....."
Who am i to argue with this expanation. I am guessing Bob really knows his stuff and thanks for going into it in so much detail.
Here is an answer from Bob Miller who lives in Ontario, Canada to the football vs soccer question ::
Quote
"......Perhaps UK folks would not be quite so intolerant of many in the world referring to the game as "soccer" if they harkened back to the origination. In the latter part of the 1800s, students at Oxford started referring to Rugby as "Rugger" and Association Football as "Soccer," with the "soc" being extracted from "association." The vast hordes that emigrated to seek a better life, took the game(s)with them to Canada, Australia, The USA and elsewhere, where "soccer" became the accepted appelation. And back in the UK, many referred to football as "soccer."
Numerous senior aged ex-pats I know from England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland said they grew up calling the game soccer. If you reference David Ramzan's pictorial on Charlton (Images of Sport, The Archives Photographs series), pages 61 and 67 show newspaper clippings using the word "soccer" in their headlines, one being "10 Men Make Soccer History," referencing the famous 1957 cup tie when Charlton came back from 1-5 to win 7-6 over Huddersfield, with Summers scoring 5! So, it isn't an American affectation or anything like that, although it does serve nicely to differentiate the game from American, Canadian and Australian Rules Football. The game has been referred to as soccer since it was first introduced by the British and that's what they called it! So, Andy, feel perfectly free to call it whatever you want! To call it "soccer" is very English, although pretty well out of favour these days....."
Who am i to argue with this expanation. I am guessing Bob really knows his stuff and thanks for going into it in so much detail.
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Continuing the football debate....
This from Wikipedia....
"The rules of football were codified in England by the Football Association in 1863, and the name association football was coined to distinguish the game from the other forms of football played at the time, specifically rugby football. The term soccer first appeared in the 1880s as a derivation of the abbreviation of association to assoc.
Today the sport is known by a number of names throughout the English-speaking world, the most common being football and soccer; this has generated debate regarding the "correct" name for the sport. The term used depends largely on the need to differentiate the sport from other codes of football followed in a community. Football is the term used by FIFA, the sport's world governing body, and the International Olympic Committee. For more details of naming throughout the world, please refer to the main articles above."
It's interesting to see that the world's governing body call it by its proper name.
And while it's true that the term 'soccer' orginated from 'association football', 'soccer' is a little used term in England, where the majority prefer the proper name - football.
In fact, some 'comedians', when berating our American friends, say 'sawcar' as a humour tool.
So, when addressing your American friends, I guess education's the way forward, Andy!
Good luck!
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